[Cryptography] 2008 revision of Bitcoin whitepaper
Does anyone have the original 2008 version of the whitepaper which was posted to this mailing list on Oct 31 2008/Nov 1 2009? The current version of the whitepaper uploaded on Sourceforge is from 2009-03-24. This is the second version of the whitepaper. The first version was published on 2008-10-31. It was uploaded to www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf which is where the current version also resides. Did anyone here happen to download and save it?
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Quote from: James Evans on January 23, 2015, 8:51:21 PM UTCDoes anyone have the original 2008 version of the whitepaper which was posted to this mailing list on Oct 31 2008/Nov 1 2009? The current version of the whitepaper uploaded on Sourceforge is from 2009-03-24. This is the second version of the whitepaper. The first version was published on 2008-10-31. It was uploaded to
www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdfwhich is where the current version also resides. Did anyone here happen to download and save it?
Looks like I have it. The text contains no version number or date, but the local date of the file I have is 2008 Nov 2.
It’s 183697 bytes and doesn’t compress very much, so it won’t fit in one mixmaster mail message. I’m an untraceable pseudonym. How could I get it to you without becoming traceable? I have played file split games for large files and could look up my notes on how to do that. Are you up for that?
— — StealthMonger Long, random latency is part of the price of Internet anonymity.
I’ve sought that original version of bitcoin.pdf and not found it. If you find a copy, please share.
Regards,
Zooko
Looks like I have it. The text contains no version number or date, but the local date of the file I have is 2008 Nov 2.
It’s 183697 bytes and doesn’t compress very much, so it won’t fit in one mixmaster mail message. I’m an untraceable pseudonym. How could I get it to you without becoming traceable? I have played file split games for large files and could look up my notes on how to do that. Are you up for that?
Can you post the SHA256 hash of your copy? I might have it.
It’s 183697 bytes and doesn’t compress very much, so it won’t fit in one mixmaster mail message. I’m an untraceable pseudonym. How could I get it to you without becoming traceable? I have played file split games for large files and could look up my notes on how to do that. Are you up for that?
It seems that the price of privacy and anonymity is being unable to communicate…
Discuss.
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It’s 183697 bytes and doesn’t compress very much, so it won’t fit in one mixmaster mail message. I’m an untraceable pseudonym. How could I get it to you without becoming traceable? I have played file split games for large files and could look up my notes on how to do that. Are you up for that?
Why not Pastebin?
—Paul Hoffman
Can you post the SHA256 hash of your copy? I might have it.
tmp $ sha256sum bitcoin.pdf
427c63b364c6db914cf23072a09ffd53ee078397b7c6ab2d604e12865a982faa bitcoin.pdf— — StealthMonger Long, random latency is part of the price of Internet anonymity.
tmp $ sha256sum bitcoin.pdf 427c63b364c6db914cf23072a09ffd53ee078397b7c6ab2d604e12865a982faa bitcoin.pdf
As far as I know the one that everyone else has is:
$ sha256sum bitcoin.pdf
b1674191a88ec5cdd733e4240a81803105dc412d6c6708d53ab94fc248f4f553
bitcoin.pdf- Bryan
http://heybryan.org/
You can use the encrypted file transfer service Mega.co.nz, which you can access via Tor, I believe, without any problems. Just make up your account details. Then you simply give us a link to download the file. I would be interested in tracking the changes between the two documents, as well.
Paul
Quote from: StealthMonger on January 24, 2015, 10:48:55 PM UTCIn an unsigned posting, it is written:
Quote from: James Evans on January 23, 2015, 8:51:21 PM UTCDoes anyone have the original 2008 version of the whitepaper which was posted to this mailing list on Oct 31 2008/Nov 1 2009? The current version of the whitepaper uploaded on Sourceforge is from 2009-03-24. This is the second version of the whitepaper. The first version was published on 2008-10-31. It was uploaded to
www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdfwhich is where the current version also resides. Did anyone here happen to download and save it?Looks like I have it. The text contains no version number or date, but the local date of the file I have is 2008 Nov 2.
It’s 183697 bytes and doesn’t compress very much, so it won’t fit in one mixmaster mail message. I’m an untraceable pseudonym. How could I get it to you without becoming traceable? I have played file split games for large files and could look up my notes on how to do that. Are you up for that?
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Quote from: Paul Hoffman on January 25, 2015, 7:53:07 PM UTCQuote from: StealthMonger on January 24, 2015, 10:48:55 PM UTCIt’s 183697 bytes and doesn’t compress very much, so it won’t fit in one mixmaster mail message. I’m an untraceable pseudonym. How could I get it to you without becoming traceable? I have played file split games for large files and could look up my notes on how to do that. Are you up for that?
Why not Pastebin?
How could it be uploaded to Pastebin anonymously? Posting to the web cannot be done anonymously [1].
Several other writers have also suggested, on-list and off, various schemes for uploading this file, including Tor, mega.co.nz, Pastebin, and owncloud.rg.net. They all have in common a low-latency connection for the upload. (PLEASE CORRECT!) This posting is meant to reply to all of these suggestions, to save time for all concerned.
Tor is not anonymous [2,3,4]. No low-latency, connection-based protocol can be anonymous: On the assumption that a resourceful adversary such as NSA collects IP packet addresses, times, and sizes from key points on the Internet, end-point IP packet timing can be correlated to connect source and destination, ruining anonymity.
The only way I know to stay anonymous is to use chains of anonymizing remailers having deliberately long, random latency and traffic mixing. With store-and-forward, the security is in the message, not the connection.
The 183697 byte version of bitcoin.pdf received here 2008 November 8, sha256 427c63b364c6db914cf23072a09ffd53ee078397b7c6ab2d604e12865a982faa is now available by robot mail [5] (along with other files mentioned in the index [6]).
A writer suggests using the Unix command split for this job. mixmaster also has its own split. These have technical problems, so the robot uses the rfc1521 Message/Partial subtype. Expect about 30 mails, spread over maybe a day. Requests are served sequentially, so if there are several, expect further delay.
Someone paraphrased my .sig:
Quote from: Dave Horsfall on January 25, 2015, 6:48:28 PM UTCIt seems that the price of privacy and anonymity is being unable to communicate…
…or at least there are obstacles. Yep. This writer “gets it”.
Dave HorsfallDiscuss.
That would be good. Is this the forum?
It seems that most people are so enamored with connection-based communication that they lose sight of the anonymity penalty it imposes.
[1] except in those rare cases where the server accepts parameters in the HTTP GET URL rather than a POST. Then the GET can be done through a chain of anonymizing remailers to a mail-to-web gateway.
[2] … for low-latency systems like Tor, end-to-end traffic correlation attacks [8, 21, 31] allow an attacker who can observe both ends of a communication to correlate packet timing and volume, quickly linking the initiator to her destination.
http://tor.eff.org/cvs/tor/doc/design-paper/challenges.pdf
[3] … Tor offers basically no protection against somebody who can measure [2] flows at both sides of the circuit … --- Tor developer Roger Dingledine
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech%40lists.stanford.edu/msg00022.html
[4] “Users Get Routed: Traffic Correlation on Tor by Realistic Adversaries”, Aaron Johnson, Chris Wacek, Rob Jansen, Micah Sherr, Paul Syverson, 2013
ABSTRACT … Our results show that Tor users are far more susceptible to compromise than indicated by prior work. …
http://www.ohmygodel.com/publications/usersrouted-ccs13.pdf
[5] mailto:stealthsuite[..]nym.mixmin.net?subject=send%20bitcoin.pdf
[6] mailto:stealthsuite[..]nym.mixmin.net?subject=send%20index.html
— — StealthMonger Long, random latency is part of the price of Internet anonymity.
Key: mailto:stealthsuite[..]nym.mixmin.net?subject=send%20stealthmonger-key
In an unsigned message it is written: [….] How could it be uploaded to Pastebin anonymously? Posting to the web cannot be done anonymously [1].
Thus have we just concluded that Confidentiality & Anonymity are not only orthogonal but undeceivable? Oops, meant undecidable. __outer
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Quote from: Paul Hoffman on January 25, 2015, 7:53:07 PM UTCQuote from: StealthMonger on January 24, 2015, 10:48:55 PM UTCIt’s 183697 bytes and doesn’t compress very much, so it won’t fit in one mixmaster mail message. I’m an untraceable pseudonym. How could I get it to you without becoming traceable? I have played file split games for large files and could look up my notes on how to do that. Are you up for that?
Why not Pastebin?
How could it be uploaded to Pastebin anonymously? Posting to the web cannot be done anonymously [1].
Several other writers have also suggested, on-list and off, various schemes for uploading this file, including Tor, mega.co.nz, Pastebin, and owncloud.rg.net. They all have in common a low-latency connection for the upload. (PLEASE CORRECT!) This posting is meant to reply to all of these suggestions, to save time for all concerned.
Tor is not anonymous [2,3,4]. No low-latency, connection-based protocol can be anonymous: On the assumption that a resourceful adversary such as NSA collects IP packet addresses, times, and sizes from key points on the Internet, end-point IP packet timing can be correlated to connect source and destination, ruining anonymity.
The only way I know to stay anonymous is to use chains of anonymizing remailers having deliberately long, random latency and traffic mixing. With store-and-forward, the security is in the message, not the connection.
I2P with Bote mail, using the random delay option for relay and multiple relays.
So you’ve got two layers of tracking resistance, one that behaves similar to Tor and one on top where I2P nodes running Bote participates in a DHT for storing and delivering messages. End-to-end encryption in every layer. Given the mixing of traffic from multiple sources at every level and with the packet switching behavior, the room for traffic analysis is extremely limited.
Quote from: StealthMonger on January 26, 2015, 1:17:26 PM UTCIn an unsigned message it is written: [….] How could it be uploaded to Pastebin anonymously? Posting to the web cannot be done anonymously [1].
Thus have we just concluded that Confidentiality & Anonymity are not only orthogonal but undeceivable? Oops, meant undecidable.
Not at all. The conclusion is we do not have a good anonymity mechanism for HTTP transactions.
Which I entirely agree with.
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A writer suggests using the Unix command split for this job. mixmaster also has its own split. These have technical problems, so the robot uses the rfc1521 Message/Partial subtype. Expect about 30 mails, spread over maybe a day. Requests are served sequentially, so if there are several, expect further delay.
I’m up for it. I’m not anonymous, neither is my web site. Send ‘em to me by the split, slow, anonymous path and I’ll assemble and host.
As far as I know the one that everyone else has is: b1674191a88ec5cdd733e4240a81803105dc412d6c6708d53ab94fc248f4f553 bitcoin.pdf
That matches my archival copy.
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I finally have the first issued version of the bitcoin paper from StealthMonger.
For your amusement and to enable you to download it from a website with an SSL certificate signed by one of those SSL companies (that sadly used SHA1), I’ve made it a page on our yarn store web site.
https://www.blacksheepatorenco.com/bitcoin.html
>sha256sum bitcoin.pdf
>427c63b364c6db914cf23072a09ffd53ee078397b7c6ab2d604e12865a982faa
bitcoin.pdfDJ